# KWRT vs ImmortalWrt - Comprehensive Comparison **Created:** 2026-01-12 **Purpose:** Deep dive into the two main community OpenWrt forks available for GL-AX1800 --- ## 🌟 Executive Summary Both **KWRT** and **ImmortalWrt** are enhanced forks of OpenWrt that add features, packages, and optimizations beyond vanilla OpenWrt. However, they target different audiences and have distinct philosophies: - **KWRT (Koolshare OpenWrt by Kiddin9):** Chinese-focused, online firmware customization, bleeding-edge packages - **ImmortalWrt:** International fork with performance optimizations, broader device support, more conservative approach --- ## 1️⃣ KWRT (Koolshare OpenWrt / Kiddin9 OpenWrt) ### What Is KWRT? **Full Name:** Koolshare OpenWrt (also known as Kiddin9's OpenWrt or just "Kwrt") **Developer:** Kiddin9 **Website:** https://openwrt.ai **GitHub:** https://github.com/kiddin9/OpenWrt_x86-r2s-r4s ### Philosophy KWRT aims to provide **maximum customization** through an online build platform while maintaining the latest OpenWrt code with extensive plugin/package support. It's particularly popular in the Chinese OpenWrt community but supports international users. ### Key Features #### πŸ”§ Online Firmware Customization - **Web-based Builder:** Visit openwrt.ai to customize firmware before download - **Kernel Selection:** Choose from multiple kernel versions (5.15.x, 6.1.x, 6.6.x, 6.12.x) - **Package Pre-selection:** Select packages to include before compilation - **Theme Options:** Choose default LuCI theme - **File System:** Ext4 support for sponsored users #### πŸ“¦ Extensive Package Repository - Maintains comprehensive GitHub repos for OpenWrt packages - **Vast collection** of open-source plugins - Many packages commonly needed by Chinese users - Third-party packages and tools not in official OpenWrt **Common Default Packages:** - `autocore` - System auto-configuration - `base-files` - Core system files - `bash` - Full bash shell (not just busybox ash) - `dnsmasq-full` - Enhanced DNS/DHCP server - `firewall4` - NFTables firewall - `luci-app-firewall` - Firewall web interface - `openssh-sftp-server` - SFTP support **Optional Packages** (examples): - `luci-app-accesscontrol-plus` - Access control - `luci-app-adbyby-plus` / `luci-app-adguardhome` - Ad blocking - `luci-app-aliyundrive-webdav` - Cloud drive integration - `luci-app-aria2` - Download management - Network proxy tools: `koolss` (SS/SSR), `v2ray`, `wireguard`, `brook` #### πŸ—οΈ Architecture Support Unlike Koolshare's original X64-only focus, Kiddin9's KWRT supports: - **X86_64** - Desktop/server platforms - **i386_pentium4** - Older Intel platforms - **aarch64** - Generic, Cortex-A72, Cortex-A53 (← **GL-AX1800 uses this**) - **ARM** - Cortex-A9, Cortex-A7, ARM1176JZF-S - **MIPS** - mipsel_24kc, mips_24kc - Devices: Raspberry Pi, N1, various routers #### πŸš€ Build Frequency - **Monthly snapshots** (typically around the 10th of each month) - Based on latest OpenWrt master - Dated builds (MM.DD.YYYY format) #### πŸ–₯️ Web Server - Uses **Nginx** instead of Uhttpd - Better performance for web services - Enhanced HTTP server capabilities ### For GL-AX1800 Specifically **Target:** `qualcommax/ipq60xx` **Architecture:** aarch64_cortex-a53 **Build Example:** `kwrt-01.10.2026-qualcommax-ipq60xx-glinet_gl-ax1800-squashfs-factory.bin` **Installation:** 1. Enter U-Boot mode (hold reset, power on, 10 sec) 2. Browse to http://192.168.1.1 3. Flash `.bin` or `.ubi` factory image 4. For upgrades: use `sysupgrade.bin` **Available Files:** - **Factory.bin** - Standard factory image - **Factory.ubi** - UBI format for NAND flash - **Sysupgrade.bin** - For OpenWrtβ†’OpenWrt upgrades ### Pros βœ… **Online customization** - Build exactly what you need βœ… **Latest packages** - Bleeding-edge versions βœ… **LuCI included** - Web interface by default βœ… **Nginx** - Better web server βœ… **More pre-installed** - Many useful packages out-of-box βœ… **Regular builds** - Monthly updates βœ… **Wide hardware support** - Many architectures βœ… **Active development** - Frequent commits ### Cons ⚠️ **Chinese-focused** - Documentation/UI primarily Chinese ⚠️ **Less stable** - Monthly builds, less testing than releases ⚠️ **Non-upstreamable** - Custom patches not in official OpenWrt ⚠️ **Larger images** - More packages = bigger firmware ⚠️ **Slow download** - openwrt.ai server can be very slow ⚠️ **Less support** - Smaller international community ### When to Choose KWRT **Choose KWRT if you:** - Want maximum customization before download - Need specific Chinese-region packages/tools - Want the latest packages immediately - Prefer pre-configured systems - Are comfortable with monthly snapshot builds - Like having many options/plugins available - Can read/navigate Chinese interfaces --- ## 2️⃣ ImmortalWrt ### What Is ImmortalWrt? **Full Name:** ImmortalWrt **Type:** OpenWrt fork **Developer:** Chinese developer community **Website:** https://immortalwrt.org **GitHub:** https://github.com/immortalwrt/immortalwrt ### Philosophy ImmortalWrt aims to **enhance OpenWrt** with better performance, more device support, and additional packages while maintaining a more traditional approach than KWRT. Focus on performance optimization and "non-upstreamable" improvements. ### Key Features #### ⚑ Performance Optimization - **Wireless driver optimization** - Enhanced Wi-Fi performance - **Kernel optimization** - Tuned for better speed/stability - **MediaTek focus** - Particularly good for MTK chips - Users report better performance vs vanilla OpenWrt in many cases - **High network speed** - Optimized for throughput #### πŸ”§ Out-of-the-Box Functionality - More features **pre-enabled** vs official OpenWrt - Less manual configuration needed - Better defaults for common use cases #### πŸ“± Device Support - **Wider range of devices** than official OpenWrt - Particularly: Chinese-branded routers - Single-board computers (SBCs) - Devices not officially supported by mainstream OpenWrt - **Faster adoption** of new hardware #### 🌍 Localization - Default optimized profiles for mainland China - Includes Chinese-specific optimizations - More international than KWRT - English documentation available #### πŸ“¦ Package Differences - Uses `opkg` package manager (same as OpenWrt) - **More packages ported** than vanilla - Includes packages commonly needed by Chinese users - Third-party packages addressing local internet requirements - Approximately **8000+ packages** available #### πŸ”„ Release Model - **Stable releases** - e.g., 23.05.7 - **Snapshot builds** - Daily/regular updates - More conservative than KWRT's monthly approach ### For GL-AX1800 Specifically **Target:** `qualcommax/ipq60xx` **Architecture:** aarch64_cortex-a53 **GCC:** 12.3.0 (stable), 14.3.0 (snapshots) **Stable Release:** 23.05.7 - **URL:** https://downloads.immortalwrt.org/releases/23.05.7/targets/qualcommax/ipq60xx/ - **Note:** GL-AX1800 support may not be in stable yet (404 errors observed) **Snapshots:** - **URL:** https://downloads.immortalwrt.org/snapshots/targets/qualcommax/ipq60xx/ - Regular builds available **File Pattern:** ``` immortalwrt-qualcommax-ipq60xx-glinet_gl-ax1800-squashfs-factory.bin immortalwrt-qualcommax-ipq60xx-glinet_gl-ax1800-squashfs-sysupgrade.bin ``` ### Pros βœ… **Performance** - Optimized for speed/stability βœ… **Device support** - More hardware than vanilla βœ… **Stable releases** - Not just snapshots βœ… **LuCI included** - Web interface by default βœ… **More international** - Better English support than KWRT βœ… **Frequent updates** - Bug fixes come quickly βœ… **Better drivers** - Enhanced wireless drivers βœ… **Proven track record** - Established fork βœ… **Less bloated** - More focused than KWRT ### Cons ⚠️ **Non-upstreamable** - Custom patches not in official OpenWrt ⚠️ **Less mainstream** - Smaller than vanilla OpenWrt community ⚠️ **Custom tweaks** - May conflict with official packages ⚠️ **Documentation** - Less comprehensive than vanilla ⚠️ **Update lag** - Sometimes behind vanilla on security updates ⚠️ **Regional focus** - Still Chinese-oriented ### When to Choose ImmortalWrt **Choose ImmortalWrt if you:** - Want **better performance** than vanilla OpenWrt - Need support for Chinese/Asian hardware - Prefer **stable releases** over snapshots - Want more packages but not KWRT's full collection - Like the balance between vanilla and heavily customized - Need MediaTek optimization - Want frequent bug fixes - Prefer a more traditional OpenWrt experience --- ## πŸ“Š Detailed Comparison Matrix | Feature | Vanilla OpenWrt | KWRT (Kiddin9) | ImmortalWrt | |---------|----------------|----------------|-------------| | **Philosophy** | Upstream-first, stability | Maximum customization | Performance + support | | **Release Model** | Stable + snapshots | Monthly builds | Stable + snapshots | | **Stability** | ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ | ⭐⭐⭐ | ⭐⭐⭐⭐ | | **Performance** | ⭐⭐⭐⭐ | ⭐⭐⭐⭐ | ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ | | **Device Support** | Wide | Very Wide | Widest | | **Package Count** | ~8000 | ~10000+ | ~8000+ | | **Pre-installed** | Minimal | Many | More than vanilla | | **Customization** | Manual | **Online builder** | Manual | | **LuCI Included** | Yes | Yes | Yes | | **Web Server** | Uhttpd | **Nginx** | Uhttpd | | **Chinese Focus** | No | Strong | Moderate | | **International** | ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ | ⭐⭐ | ⭐⭐⭐⭐ | | **Documentation** | Excellent | Limited | Good | | **Community Size** | Huge | Small | Medium | | **Update Speed** | Moderate | Fast (monthly) | Fast | | **Build Frequency** | Daily snapshots | Monthly dated | Regular | | **Security Updates** | Fastest | Moderate | Fast | | **Upstream Compat.** | Perfect | Modified | Modified | | **File Size** | Smallest | Largest | Medium | | **Learning Curve** | Medium | Medium | Easy-Medium | --- ## 🎯 Which Should You Choose for GL-AX1800? ### Choose **Vanilla OpenWrt 25.12.0-rc2** If: - Want official, well-supported firmware - Value **stability** and security above all - Need reliable security updates - Want largest community support - Comfortable with SSH/manual package installation - βœ… **RECOMMENDED for most users** ### Choose **KWRT** If: - Want **online firmware customization** - Need specific Chinese-region tools - Want bleeding-edge packages immediately - Like pre-configured systems with many options - Don't mind monthly snapshot builds - Can navigate Chinese interfaces - Want Nginx web server - Enjoy tinkering with latest features ### Choose **ImmortalWrt** If: - Want **best performance** optimization - Need stable releases with extra features - Want balance between vanilla and KWRT - Prefer traditional OpenWrt feel with enhancements - Like more international focus than KWRT - Want enhanced wireless drivers - Need quick bug fixes - Want more packages than vanilla but not KWRT's full selection --- ## πŸ” Technical Differences ### Package Management **All three use `opkg`** but with different repositories: ```bash # Vanilla OpenWrt opkg update opkg install # KWRT # Pre-configured with Kiddin9's repos # Nginx instead of Uhttpd # More packages available by default # ImmortalWrt # Own package repos # More packages ported # Chinese-specific tools included ``` ### Kernel Versions | Firmware | Kernel | Notes | |----------|--------|-------| | OpenWrt 25.12-rc2 | 6.6.x | LTS kernel | | OpenWrt Master | 6.6.x+ | Latest stable | | KWRT | 5.15.x -6.12.x | **User selectable!** | | ImmortalWrt Stable | 5.15.x | Conservative | | ImmortalWrt Snapshot | 6.6.x | Latest | ### GCC Toolchain | Firmware | GCC Version | C++ Support | |----------|-------------|-------------| | OpenWrt 25.12-rc2 | 14.3.0 | C++23 | | OpenWrt Master | 14.3.0 | C++23 | | KWRT | 14.3.0 | C++23 | | ImmortalWrt 23.05 | 12.3.0 | C++20 | | ImmortalWrt Snapshot | 14.3.0 | C++23 | --- ## πŸ“₯ Download Links for GL-AX1800 ### KWRT ``` https://dl.openwrt.ai/firmware/qualcommax-ipq60xx/glinet_gl-ax1800/ Latest: kwrt-01.10.2026-qualcommax-ipq60xx-glinet_gl-ax1800-squashfs-factory.bin ``` ### ImmortalWrt Snapshots ``` https://downloads.immortalwrt.org/snapshots/targets/qualcommax/ipq60xx/ Latest: immortalwrt-qualcommax-ipq60xx-glinet_gl-ax1800-squashfs-factory.bin ``` ### ImmortalWrt Stable (if available) ``` https://downloads.immortalwrt.org/releases/23.05.7/targets/qualcommax/ipq60xx/ ``` --- ## πŸ’‘ Real-World Use Cases ### Home Lab / Development **Recommendation:** KWRT or OpenWrt Master - Online customization for dev tools - Latest GCC for compiling - Many packages available ### Production Router / Reliability **Recommendation:** ImmortalWrt Stable or OpenWrt 25.12-rc2 - Stable releases - Performance optimized - LuCI included ### Chinese Internet / Region-Specific **Recommendation:** KWRT - Best Chinese tool support - Optimized for region - Custom packages included ### Performance Testing / Benchmarking **Recommendation:** ImmortalWrt - Best wireless performance - Kernel optimizations - Proven speed improvements ### Learning OpenWrt / First Time **Recommendation:** OpenWrt 25.12-rc2 - Official documentation - Largest community - Best learning resources --- ## πŸš€ My Recommendation for Your GL-AX1800 Based on having downloaded multiple firmware variants: **1st Choice: OpenWrt 25.12.0-rc2** ⭐ - Stable release candidate - Native IPQ6000 support - LuCI included - GCC 14.3.0 - Will become official stable soon **2nd Choice: ImmortalWrt Snapshot** - If you need better performance - Stable enough for daily use - More packages than vanilla **3rd Choice: KWRT** - If you want to experiment - Try the online customization - Test bleeding-edge packages **Avoid for Production: OpenWrt Master Snapshots** - Too unstable (daily builds) - Use 25.12-rc2 instead --- ## πŸ› οΈ Installation Tips Both KWRT and ImmortalWrt install the same way as vanilla OpenWrt: ### U-Boot Method (Recommended) 1. Power off router 2. Hold reset button while powering on 3. Hold 10 seconds until LED blinks 4. Set PC IP: 192.168.1.100 5. Browse: http://192.168.1.1 6. Upload factory.bin file 7. Wait 3-5 minutes ### Via SSH (if already running OpenWrt) ```bash scp firmware.bin root@192.168.x.1:/tmp/ ssh root@192.168.x.1 sysupgrade -n /tmp/firmware.bin ``` --- ## πŸ“š Additional Resources ### KWRT - Website: https://openwrt.ai - GitHub: https://github.com/kiddin9/OpenWrt_x86-r2s-r4s - Packages: https://github.com/kiddin9/openwrt-packages ### ImmortalWrt - Website: https://immortalwrt.org - GitHub: https://github.com/immortalwrt/immortalwrt - Forum: Various Chinese and international forums ### Community - OpenWrt Forum: https://forum.openwrt.org - Reddit: r/openwrt - GL.iNet Forum: https://forum.gl-inet.com --- ## πŸ“ Summary - **KWRT = Customization King** πŸ‘‘ (online builder, many packages, Chinese-focused) - **ImmortalWrt = Performance Beast** ⚑ (optimized, stable, balanced) - **Vanilla OpenWrt = Rock Solid** πŸ—Ώ (official, supported, stable) All three work great on GL-AX1800 with the `qualcommax/ipq60xx` target!